Episode 11: The Trans Ban

Tyler Gilmore is a veteran of the Marines who vocally expressed his support for the trans ban. In this episode Dylan connects him to Maddie Makara, a veteran who served for 16 years and recently came out as a trans woman.

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Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a production of Night Vale Presents. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Christy Gressman (executive producer), Vincent Cacchione (audio engineer, mixer), Rob Wilson (logo designer). Theme song: “These Dark Times” by Caged Animals.